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Holkham Beach

At the end of June there was a lot of hand wringing going on as the managers of Holkham Beach, Norfolk announced that it would be closed to naturists from 1st July 2013. They took this action because of reports of doggers using the beach despite making what turned out to be ineffective efforts last year to curb their activities.

The beach is close to the Sandringham Estate and, according to The Daily Telegraph’s Joe Shute, a favourite haunt of the Royal family until comparatively recently. Her Majesty The Queen made a home movie there in 1957, showing an eight-year old Prince Charles and six-year old Princess Ann buried up to their necks in the sand, while a corgi did it’s royal duty and stood guard. The article also reported that a beach hut was built there for the Royal family in the 1930s and remained until it was mysteriously burned down in 2003.

With Sandringham’s Anmer Hall earmarked as the new residence for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge with their new baby, the article went on to suggest that the ban brought a sigh of relief in Buckingham Palace. This implied that it would not have been a suitable place to bring up young children without it. Obviously, none of us believe that and, of course, the palace has said nothing officially.

The subject of the ban came up on

4 Responses to Holkham Beach

  • The phrase “a society willing to use the law against us if there is the slightest hint of intent to cause offence in our actions” seems to mis-state the law. In fact we should be aware (and make others aware) that the Public Order Act, which is the law most often used against naturists, doesn’t require any intention to cause offence–under its Section 5, we could be prosecuted for actions “within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby”. That’s been the basis of numerous legal cases, some involving well-known individuals like Richard Collins, Steve Gough and Nigel Keer. It’s obvious that the law is vague, and some defendants have managed to appeal successfully (as Nigel Keer did) but other convictions have been sustained. It’s actually very rare for a naturist to have any intention to offend anybody, but we might be careless, indifferent–reckless, maybe? about whether it happens. And if it does, we can expect people to call in the law on us.

  • Dogging happens, it has always happened. It will continue to happen. It has nothing to do with naturism; it is peoples’ desire to have sex in the open air either with or without witnesses.
    It happens where there are no dunes or naturist club/beach/event, it happens where people are dressed.
    It happens in national parks, but you don’t close the parks because of it.
    It happens in car parks; you don’t punish the car drivers and close the car park because of it.
    It happens in woods and forests, but you don’t chop the trees down because of it.
    It happens in lay-bys, but you don’t close the roads because of it.
    I have seen worse on a Saturday night in town than I have at any naturist places I have been to so far, you don’t close down the town at 9 pm and punish all the party goers because one or two or 10 to 20 will get up to something they wouldn’t do normally.
    And everyone knows something about where it happens no matter whether you are into it or not. I am sure every one of the Holkham Estate can name somewhere near where they used to live that was known, or still is known, as Lovers Lane. Has anyone closed it as punishment to all those who used the lane for genuine and other purposes because of it, I say the answer is no.

    • I cannot fault your logic Gadget51, but you cannot be anywhere nearer the truth when you said that “It has nothing to do with naturism.” Naturism has lost so many venues because people decide that their sexual gratification is more important than the lifestyle. No doubt we shall never stop it, but if naturism is to enjoy more open spaces and beaches then we shall need to ‘clean up’ our act.

  • My use of English language sucks (pardon the pun). I agree it generally is down to us to protect the places we have.
    My point is, as we all know, just because you enjoy being naked in a public place does not automatically mean you are going to have open air sex. Conversely just because you would never dream of being in a public place without at least a moderate amount of clothing does not mean you do not partake in outside loving.
    You don’t close the shop because one man stole a sweet; you stop the man.
    Don’t stop the naturists because I guarantee it will not stop the sex.
    The other thing to think about is what is the point of demanding to be thought of as innocent when we actually get punished more than the perpetrators?
    As it stands at the moment the estate is having to watch for any untoward behaviour. If they stop the naturists from going then they will not need to have patrols out, which means that the dogging will just start all over again then who will they blame.
    My statement still stands. Outside sex has nothing to do with naturism it happens everywhere not just on a naturist beach where it is easier for them.
    The thing is I don’t believe it is our act that needs to ‘clean up’ because generally we don’t do this we are just happy to be able to shed our clothes.
    I have obviously got it wrong but to me when they close down a naturist site because of bad behaviour it is the same as the police locking up all members of a family, and I mean all; kids, parents, cousins, aunts, uncles, grandparents, 2nd cousins everyone just because one member murdered someone.
    Sometimes it is easier to burn the orchard rather than spend the time, money and effort to weed out the few bad apples and that is not justice, it is laziness.

    On a second issue how can put a picture on my profile?
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