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Is Britain in danger of becoming a police state?

The following article is from NAG supporter Brian Johnson.

Are the police and the CPS are trying to make it illegal to be naked in a public place? Is British law being made by the police rather than Parliament?

An Incident in Victoria Park, London on Wednesday 20th June 2012

BRIAN5There seems to be a

6 Responses to Is Britain in danger of becoming a police state?

  • It’s a sad day when Great Britain turns into the totalitarian Big Brother of the Orwellian nightmare. So many brave British soldiers died, and still die, fighting for freedom from oppression and mindless obedience to authority. Yet here we are in a country full of CCTV cameras, every citizen a potential criminal, every male suspected of a sex crime in thought if not deed. What a sad state of affairs.

    We have to stand up for our rights to freedom of thought and belief and practice, with the single proviso that exercising those rights hurt no third party. We’re not talking about imaginary thought-crime, or sight-crime, either. “I feel offended” (by the sight of you) is not sufficiant warrant.

    Rich.

    https://www.naktiv.net/activism.html

  • Brian, I think you are right to be concerned. I also believe that the police are trying to shut down public nakedness (plus any other behaviour that they don’t like); and section 5, so they think, gives them the powers to do so. And the latest bill going through parliament may make things worse for us. Well done for standing your ground.
    So often, the police approach seems to be to decide an offence has been committed and then to seek out the evidence for a prosecution. Evidence may be enhanced with witnesses encouraged to make a formal complaint, then to use the words referred to in some act of parliament. And we do hear of fabricated ‘evidence’.
    We all know from experience that the vast majority of people have little problem with seeing someone naked. This is despite strong pressure coming from ‘social norms’ and rules on correct behaviour, instilled from birth, to regard nakedness as shameful, disgusting, deviant or dangerous.

    But in a mainly clothed society, being naked may still be treated as an anomaly (we must get more naked people out there so that it is commonplace!) or an ambiguity – why is that person naked, what are they up to? I’ve been reading up recently on the psychology and sociology of all this and there seem to be a number of ways that a society tries to deal with an anomaly :-
    A) Treat it as a special event – the World Naked Bike Ride for example, everyone can come out and cheer and then go back to a clothed life as normal. There is no threat to social norms.
    B) Control it – designated beaches or naturist clubs, stop it spilling over into everyday life.
    C) Prosecute it, ruthlessly, to reinforce social norms and visibly demonstrate what will happen to those who ‘misbehave’
    D) Vilify it as dangerous, deviant or perverted, ‘we must protect the children’ etc.
    E) Now comes the one we can really build on – a society may embrace an anomaly where it adds meaning to, enhances and enriches life or calls attention to other levels of existence. We are surrounded by images of the naked body in art, in the media and on the internet and if we go out and show the freedom and joy of real people being naked then we can overcome the body phobia present in certain sections of our society.

    Lastly what action can we in NAG take to defend this precious freedom to be naked against the creeping erosion of our rights? I think there are four key areas :-
    1) Collect solid evidence that our being naked does not normally cause fear alarm or distress. This could be through questionnaires but a better way may to meet and talk to people when we are naked and ask for their response. This evidence could form the basis of a defence in court – it was reasonable of us to believe that our actions were not an offence under section 5 – and also to help overturn section 5.
    2) Get a legal team ready and well briefed in case we get prosecuted.
    3) Get out naked more often, individually or in groups (individuals are easy targets for the police) possibly with (probably clothed) legal observers to stage frequent and visible free range naked activities to continually assert our right to be naked.
    4) Ensure appropriate media coverage (or non-coverage?)

    I am ready to join with others to mount such a campaign. Lets do it!

    Roger Coupe

  • in reply to
    Is Britain in danger of becoming a police state?
    it already is
    with a few intelligent exceptions
    Phil

  • I am inclined to agree with roger the more that the general populace see naked people the more acceptable it will become. I dream of a day when I can go to my local supertmarket naturaly dressed and no more thought of it. I too have riden in the WNBR i am also a member of a naturist club. I can tell you the diference in attitude between the two sets of people is suprising people who go to natirist clubs are on the whole quite content to exist behind barriers. This does not expand naturist views if naturism only exists in clubs it will eventually die. BN unfortunatly was founded as an umbrella orginsation for the clubs that is why it has been so hard to get it to campaign. WNBR these people are more outward thinking they are in efect hand in hand with singles outdoor club It is with these types of people that naturism will expand I think that there should be a naturist rally/march every year anybody think the same?

  • further to my previous see on utube “stalag dalston” how many more po=eople do we need to watch us?

  • The top people in this country seem to want it to retain the old Victorian attitudes that were so prudish. Go to Hamburg and you will find in the summer that a lot of workers go off to their local PUBLIC parks and strip off for the duration of their lunch hour.
    Can you imagine that in Hyde Park. It would cause such a stir for the press to get their teeth into for at least a month!!!

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